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All of that applies as well to the monstrous dastardly inefficient , dangerous and unhealthy wind turbines. They've taken over our once beautiful midwest farms. I'm surrounded. I can tell you first hand how these work, or rather don't work. All bullshit and in the same class as EVs.

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It turns out that the energy that has to be supplied to wind turbines to keep them running often exceeds the amount of energy they produce.

For example, in Scotland, wind turbines have gobbled up more energy from diesel generators than they produce during winter months, when the energy from the diesel gens is needed to de-ice the turbines.

Even in Australia, where there are no de-icing problems, a whistle-blower recently revealed their wind turbines had to be fuelled with more energy than they produce to maintain the momentum needed to overcome stall inertia. (To understand "stall inertia," think about the energy needed to get a car going again after you've come to a full stop.)

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Exactly! Yet try to explain that to anyone that believes the propaganda. I watch these, and hear the brakes comes on, instantly stopping them, then them starting up again, and it's NOT the wind powering them. This happens multiple times a day. Then they have to spin directions to match the changes in wind direction. These have no massive batteries to store any energy they might once in a while produce. Crazy that no one ever questions anything.

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Not to mention the beautiful birds killed. ItтАЩs sickening!

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in central costa rica there is a giant wind farM. I saw it. its incredibly loud. they say for this location it works cause its on a high windy mountain ridge... i understand it really does generate a good amount of electricioty.. SOme places it might make sense

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Even then long term the maintenance costs, short life spans, decommission and disposal costs far exceed any generation of power. As Warren Buffet said long ago, without government subsidies it would make no sense to invest in turbines as they are not self sustainable.

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My somewhat limited research about the costa rica turbines seems to suggest that in that particular situation they are actually economically viable. They were incredibly LOUD

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It's possible, but from what I know about the entire industry and the turbines themselves, in the long run they don't pay for themselves. The turbines here vary a LOT in noise, both from turbine to turbine but also depending on wind direction, strength of the wind, temperature, all sorts of input seems to change the noise in both sound and intensity. Sometimes it's a whoosh whoosh thump thump, other times it's a whine and whrrr, other's it's incredibly loud roaring. Then there are vibrations. It seems that the engineers either didn't factor in the friction on the blade edges in design or perhaps their material sources simply aren't sufficient to hold up, but the blades wear incredibly fast, much sooner than the stated lifespan. And, when these need replacements, they have to rebuild all of these roads and corners again to get the equipment in here, then tear them back out and replace dirt and grass. It's absurd.

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Interesting

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Insanity never makes sense, and facts don't care about feelings.

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Yep and we are not paying for maintenance on the Windy's either. My friend did that and she got paid good money. We can't afford it.

We're broke. ЁЯСНЁЯН╗

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