Called it last night as well. It's SO incredibly rare and usually occurs in younger males without fully developed protective chest muscles. Hamlin does not fit that description, plus he was padded.
"Facing one’s own mortality based on medical crimes against humanity would really …
Called it last night as well. It's SO incredibly rare and usually occurs in younger males without fully developed protective chest muscles. Hamlin does not fit that description, plus he was padded.
"Facing one’s own mortality based on medical crimes against humanity would really blow a lot of minds that aren’t ready to be unprogrammed." That includes the NFL which is too big to fail—and their pharma sponsors keeping the boat afloat will not allow it to happen.
Plus it’s wasn’t a very hard hit to begin with. Like you said it’s something that happens to say a 10yr old pitcher in little league that catches a line drive to the chest from 40ft away. With the bats kids use today it’s basically like a gunshot. That hit last night was pedestrian for football, anyone that watches has seen many way harder hits third than that 1000 times.
None, but most owners have first-or-second hand stories if they’ve been in the business long enough. Martial arts studios have defib machines too. Insurance requires them, so the occurrence of v-fib from a hit or from a congenital problem must not be statistically insignificant to actuaries.
Yes, they are required by law to have defib machines in many, many places of high human traffic/volume. They are a false security. Most of us wouldn't even think to grab them and use them if we were witnessing an event. My point in asking you how often you have seen them used is because you seem to suggest that sudden cardiac events are common. They are not. That is why we make big deal of them when they happen.
Management at gyms know how to use the defibrillators. Gyms don’t have high traffic. The machines are in place for cardiac events caused primarily by hits to the solar plexus that short the AV node and cause v-fib.
I can believe that the pounds per square inch force from a kick, punch or elbow to a bare chest is orders of magnitude higher than a glancing well padded shoulder hitting a well padded chest and yet this issue is virtually non existent in martial arts. The more they ignore the elephant in the room, the more blood they have on their hands.
Swimming pool I work at has a defib on wall too. Been there for years. So far as I know, never been used for anything erxcept an insurance safety check off.
So glad you jumped all over this.
Commotio Corditis indeed!
Called it last night as well. It's SO incredibly rare and usually occurs in younger males without fully developed protective chest muscles. Hamlin does not fit that description, plus he was padded.
"Facing one’s own mortality based on medical crimes against humanity would really blow a lot of minds that aren’t ready to be unprogrammed." That includes the NFL which is too big to fail—and their pharma sponsors keeping the boat afloat will not allow it to happen.
Plus it’s wasn’t a very hard hit to begin with. Like you said it’s something that happens to say a 10yr old pitcher in little league that catches a line drive to the chest from 40ft away. With the bats kids use today it’s basically like a gunshot. That hit last night was pedestrian for football, anyone that watches has seen many way harder hits third than that 1000 times.
As I mentioned on another post, kickboxing gyms and martial arts studios have defib machines for this very purpose. It happens.
Exactly how many times have you seen the defib machine at your gym employed to revive a person who went into "hit-induced v-fib" in the last 30 years?
None, but most owners have first-or-second hand stories if they’ve been in the business long enough. Martial arts studios have defib machines too. Insurance requires them, so the occurrence of v-fib from a hit or from a congenital problem must not be statistically insignificant to actuaries.
Yes, they are required by law to have defib machines in many, many places of high human traffic/volume. They are a false security. Most of us wouldn't even think to grab them and use them if we were witnessing an event. My point in asking you how often you have seen them used is because you seem to suggest that sudden cardiac events are common. They are not. That is why we make big deal of them when they happen.
Amy for the win!
Management at gyms know how to use the defibrillators. Gyms don’t have high traffic. The machines are in place for cardiac events caused primarily by hits to the solar plexus that short the AV node and cause v-fib.
I can believe that the pounds per square inch force from a kick, punch or elbow to a bare chest is orders of magnitude higher than a glancing well padded shoulder hitting a well padded chest and yet this issue is virtually non existent in martial arts. The more they ignore the elephant in the room, the more blood they have on their hands.
I’d look to the lawyers before actuaries on this.
I aways get my medical and scientific analysis from lawyers...
Swimming pool I work at has a defib on wall too. Been there for years. So far as I know, never been used for anything erxcept an insurance safety check off.