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going to elaborate on the data-sharing with a real world example.

we just changed car insurance companies. i have a vehicle with that fancy starlink/remote start thing. so the car manufacturer and starlink both know where the car is at all times. manufacturer knows the tire pressure (but you have to call to schedule any recall service to make sure that they have parts in stock - well that's dumb too). the car insurance company is giving us a discount for carrying around a GPS gadget thing (we have a new teenage male driver so every discount helps). why can't the insurance company bully er collaborate with starlink to get that data instead of giving us this thing to add to the car? ideally, i would have that data and just grant them access but it's crazy that they aren't doing useful data-sharing.

remember the old sprint commercials? "the web site isn't the store site" one? still mostly true.

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Wow. It's crazy how data controls so much these days and corporations use it against their own customers via surveillance capitalism. I don't miss owning a car. If I did it'd be one where nobody knows where I am ever. 71' Land Cruiser or something lol.

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we live rural but we usually have a 5 mile radius of driving - it's not that things are far but there's no easy way to traverse without a vehicle and car/truck is most efficient time-wise. the starlink stuff is kind of cool -- i could use it to slap a curfew on the car and a maximum speed when the teen is out, all from the palm of my hand. so right there, a parent should see great insurance discounts. but no data-sharing <eye roll>, no easy discounts.

nearby we have "the long bridge". a local standing challenge is who can go for the longest time periods without having to cross the bridge. husband's record is about 18 months. the corporate trackers will be very bored scanning our habits. home depot, grocery, home depot, home depot, gas, school.

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I too just bought a car with starlink. It's free for 3 months I think. I know instinctively that I do not want to continue paying for it after that; you have given me more reason not to. The car insurance racket, being a player in this also angers me.

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I will reluctantly admit that in sub freezing temperatures after a snowfall, the 10 min remote start is handy to get the car warm enough to make cleaning it off with less hassle. Especially the underlying ice layer that we typically get beneath the inches of snow.

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The sales agent pointed that out to me, but since I have a garage, no sale. I don't plan on being in northern climes. There are reasons that a lot of tech options make sense and even though I hate most of it because it's all about surveillance I accept its tradeoffs.

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