Call me extra-paranoid, but at this point, I wonder if the lockdowns are among other things a drill or dress rehearsal for the next potential pandemic. Which may or may not be already be here, and which could involve a virus with a far higher mortality rate even if a lower contagion rate. H5N6 bird flu is one known culprit already m…
Call me extra-paranoid, but at this point, I wonder if the lockdowns are among other things a drill or dress rehearsal for the next potential pandemic. Which may or may not be already be here, and which could involve a virus with a far higher mortality rate even if a lower contagion rate. H5N6 bird flu is one known culprit already making the rounds in China, but barely barely at an outbreak stage -- far from an epidemic, and so further still from a pandemic. Unless the Chinese authorities know something we don't and are not telling us. I lived in mainland China for over 5 years, btw. I found the authorities to be ruthless when they thought it required, but otherwise often highly pragmatic. I'm not seeing any pragmatism in any of this. But maybe the pendulum has swung from Deng Xiaoping side to fully the Mao side, and will be a long time travelling back. I'll ping some people in China I know, but I honestly have no information and will not press anyone because the Official Covid Response in China is a sensitive matter.
I don't know and am afraid to ask my Chinese friends, but might anyway. This is so over the top that I must wonder. But maybe they've just gone full MAO and are chasing the sparrows. https://historyofyesterday.com/maos-war-on-sparrows-3edf23c487b6 Or, it's 杀鸡儆猴 : kill the rooster to scare the monkey. I think what is happening to people and their pets just horrible. It could be a national distraction and discipline example. There is a history of both.
Maybe they keep track of any areas where people are discontented or critical of the CCP. They don't have enough evidence/grounds to try them as dissidents. So fake a scary new variant. Lock them in their homes, deny them medical aid or food. Let large numbers die of ruptured appendixes, heart issues, starvation, dehydration, suicide. Say, "Whoops! The Covid did it."
I'm not denying this scenario is possible. But it would not match well with my experience, for what that is worth. It's not like China has the same tradition of habeas corpus as the USA (did). So detaining people is easier -- no need for covert jazzy-jazz. Also, however, unless they do really face an emergency, the authorities typically were not so heavy-handed. All societies have people who are discontented -- but if it stays monitored and below a certain threshold, no real threat to those in power. "Dissent" can be a safety-valve, serving a purpose, like the antics of AOC at the Met Gala.
But we do have the story of Margaret Thatcher’s Beijing visit in 1982. Thatcher presumptively demanded that China renew the lease on the New Territories -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Territories. Deng, famed for his moderation and pragmatism, was furious. He reportedly told her that he could stretch out his hand and take over all of Hong Kong, the peninsula and island, tomorrow: "We have more soldiers than you have bullets."
Whether Deng would have done so or not is another story. But historically, China was willing to solve major military threats and the like by throwing bodies at it. There is indeed some truth to the stereotype: the collectivist mindset of China versus the "individual rights" mindset professed by many Western nations. Please note the qualification "some truth" -- I have found the college age generation not answering well at all to our stereotypes.
But the bottom line remains: even as recent as Deng (1982), the Chinese government has been willing to sacrifice people as collective groups, to throw bodies at a problem, if they are convinced they face a true threat. (See also the Korean war, 1950-1953).
But that "true threat" would not be run-of-the-mill discontent or even dissent. All societies have that, including mainland China -- and China already has various ways of dealing with it, and keeping it below a certain threshold.
The CCP leaders would need to believe they are facing a real crisis. Big time serious. That is what concerns me. This looks well beyond a simple crackdown level. But again, I am working on HIGHLY limited information, and I am offering you speculation. So "Nullius in verba" -- take no one's word for it, including mine.
I believe H5N6 is detected will a PCR test, at this point anything they say flip swirl it to make sense of it. They use it to kill the birds, and push there green BS
Call me extra-paranoid, but at this point, I wonder if the lockdowns are among other things a drill or dress rehearsal for the next potential pandemic. Which may or may not be already be here, and which could involve a virus with a far higher mortality rate even if a lower contagion rate. H5N6 bird flu is one known culprit already making the rounds in China, but barely barely at an outbreak stage -- far from an epidemic, and so further still from a pandemic. Unless the Chinese authorities know something we don't and are not telling us. I lived in mainland China for over 5 years, btw. I found the authorities to be ruthless when they thought it required, but otherwise often highly pragmatic. I'm not seeing any pragmatism in any of this. But maybe the pendulum has swung from Deng Xiaoping side to fully the Mao side, and will be a long time travelling back. I'll ping some people in China I know, but I honestly have no information and will not press anyone because the Official Covid Response in China is a sensitive matter.
"Unless the Chinese authorities know something we don't and are not telling us." That keeps crossing my mind as well.
I don't know and am afraid to ask my Chinese friends, but might anyway. This is so over the top that I must wonder. But maybe they've just gone full MAO and are chasing the sparrows. https://historyofyesterday.com/maos-war-on-sparrows-3edf23c487b6 Or, it's 杀鸡儆猴 : kill the rooster to scare the monkey. I think what is happening to people and their pets just horrible. It could be a national distraction and discipline example. There is a history of both.
They have to, power is there crack, always scamming for the next hit
https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/songs-of-shanghai/comment/5983470
Maybe they keep track of any areas where people are discontented or critical of the CCP. They don't have enough evidence/grounds to try them as dissidents. So fake a scary new variant. Lock them in their homes, deny them medical aid or food. Let large numbers die of ruptured appendixes, heart issues, starvation, dehydration, suicide. Say, "Whoops! The Covid did it."
I'm not denying this scenario is possible. But it would not match well with my experience, for what that is worth. It's not like China has the same tradition of habeas corpus as the USA (did). So detaining people is easier -- no need for covert jazzy-jazz. Also, however, unless they do really face an emergency, the authorities typically were not so heavy-handed. All societies have people who are discontented -- but if it stays monitored and below a certain threshold, no real threat to those in power. "Dissent" can be a safety-valve, serving a purpose, like the antics of AOC at the Met Gala.
But we do have the story of Margaret Thatcher’s Beijing visit in 1982. Thatcher presumptively demanded that China renew the lease on the New Territories -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Territories. Deng, famed for his moderation and pragmatism, was furious. He reportedly told her that he could stretch out his hand and take over all of Hong Kong, the peninsula and island, tomorrow: "We have more soldiers than you have bullets."
Whether Deng would have done so or not is another story. But historically, China was willing to solve major military threats and the like by throwing bodies at it. There is indeed some truth to the stereotype: the collectivist mindset of China versus the "individual rights" mindset professed by many Western nations. Please note the qualification "some truth" -- I have found the college age generation not answering well at all to our stereotypes.
But the bottom line remains: even as recent as Deng (1982), the Chinese government has been willing to sacrifice people as collective groups, to throw bodies at a problem, if they are convinced they face a true threat. (See also the Korean war, 1950-1953).
But that "true threat" would not be run-of-the-mill discontent or even dissent. All societies have that, including mainland China -- and China already has various ways of dealing with it, and keeping it below a certain threshold.
The CCP leaders would need to believe they are facing a real crisis. Big time serious. That is what concerns me. This looks well beyond a simple crackdown level. But again, I am working on HIGHLY limited information, and I am offering you speculation. So "Nullius in verba" -- take no one's word for it, including mine.
I believe H5N6 is detected will a PCR test, at this point anything they say flip swirl it to make sense of it. They use it to kill the birds, and push there green BS
More bullshit viruses, uhhhgggghh
Come on, haven't they learned this yet? Or are they captured by big pharma too?
https://northerntracey213875959.wordpress.com/2021/05/14/contagion-fact-checked/
Shanghai is supposed to be a guide on how to properly lockdown your people, for what ever reason.