I paused “a man's search for meaning” audiobook that I am listening to at the moment ( https://dailyprogress.org ), to read this article.
Compelled service offends me greatly.
Just as compelled speech, injections, religion, or anything else, is reprehensible.
I am happy to fight, suffer, and die for that which I choose. I fear not death, but rather I fear the acceptance of a compelled existence that I have no say in, no control over, because another in a position of “power” says I have no rights, no personal agency.
We live in a world that has been run by psychopaths for centuries. A war to end all wars will be when the normal people take on the mind set of the psychopaths for a short while and purge them from our existence. There are many more normal people then those who are psychopathic control freaks. When we finally rise up against them we just may have some peace until more mutants come from the wombs of the unsuspecting. There is a way to know now...who they will be, what they are.
Hadrian and Vespasian came closest to wiping out the group causing all the wars on the planet, the past 250 years. Uncle A gave them swimming pools. I would invest every dollar I have remaining, in super oven technology, so we can make all the Holohoax fables reality.
Agreed. If it is a just war, one where the survival of our country is at stake, there should be enough volunteers to defend the realm. If not, perhaps it is better that way. If the powers that be have failed to convince the military-age people that continuing to have them in charge is better than whatever the invaders have to offer, maybe the would-be defenders are right.
I first heard that point of view from an invited guest speaker of the College Republicans in my first year at a state university, from a member of the Objectivist Society (Ayn Rand). I'd long thought that it was innately contradictory to enslave people in the name of protecting their freedom, but this was the first time I heard someone else say it.
The College Republicans didn't agree with the Objectivists on a broad variety of issues, and I would imagine that was one of them. Still, they invited Objectivists to come make their pitch. No protests or catcalls or attempts to drown out the speaker... just people listening and either agreeing or disagreeing politely.
I thought that was what higher education was supposed to be about. Hear other viewpoints, give 'em a fair shot, think about whether you had it wrong. While the leftist capture of academia was well underway by this point, it was before the collapse of the USSR and the resultant "taking our eye off the ball" when everyone thought the threat of socialism and communism had ended, which only caused the leftists to accelerate their efforts. The regime that spawned the subversive movement within western countries was gone, but it didn't mean the radicalized fellow travelers suddenly decided they were wrong and embraced capitalism.
I'm an old man at 86 and I send no one to die.Why are so many picking on and hating old people? Like don't give poison shots to kids ,but give them to old people ,they need it . They don't have long to wait for the old ones to die ,old age always takes care of that .
No, he's talking about the old men who sent young men to die in the War of Southern Independence, in WW I, in WW II, in Vietnam, in Korea, in the streets of the US as "law enforcers", in the wars of aggression in Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Granada, Iraq, Libya, Syria...the places are endlessly filled with the blood of innocents. WHY? Because we don't use our arms to eliminate the scum psychopathic control freaks from our midst.
You can be as specific, or vague, as you want to. I do understand your point.
It seems to me that you feel betrayed by 'the west' (or however you want to call your country), and want to blame someone. You are placing the blame on everyone, except for the one (old man) who actually ordered his forces to invade and destroy another country, and I find that to be strange. You support freedom, but fail to lay the blame at the feed of one who has consisted denied freedom from hundreds of millions of his own people, and is trying to subjugate tens of millions more.
I would expect an adult to know that people and leaders (and governments) are not perfect, and it would be childish to be disappointed by their unrealistic expectations. In this case, the 'good/bad people on both sides' may actually be relevant. But don't let this 'Nirvana fallacy' keep us from calling out the atrocities, that we know are happening.
I'm sure you will have plenty of chances to call other countries for their acts, as well.
Well, you can suck up to the propaganda if you like. Which you obviously are doing, but if you look at REALITY the reason the Russians invaded was to OUST the not so old con man running the Ukraine. He was allowing the continual bombardment of the RUSSIAN people of Doobas (sp) and was warned over and over and of course you don't read that side of the narrative. You've got it in your mind that Putin just woke up one day and decided to invade the Ukraine. That's bullshit. He wants the NAZI'S OUT of the Ukraine and he has acknowledged the SUCCESSION of the Doobas region and is PROTECTING them. I've been following this on Telegram and frankly I'm GLAD that those Russians in that region are being helped because 14,000 of them lost their lives to the coke addict running the Ukraine INTO the GROUND. And the USA is the biggest terrorist threat to the entire planet. Just in case you haven't figured that out yet. FUCK the "the leadership" of this country. You have to be MAD to go along with their horseshit.
Congratulations, you are like most NPCs in the West. They have put a trap door into your mind and then they pour in the propaganda, and you repeat like a parrot. How does it feel to lose all ability at critical thinking? How does it feel to be on the side of the Globalists at DAVOS? Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates thank you for your support.
How does it feel to be on the side of dictators and authoritarians? I have a feeling that you don't care, as long as they pet your head, put some money in your bowl and tell you that you've been a good boy.
I don' t take sides on these deals. This whole thing was avoidable by both sides. Neither side has the courage or the moral compass to end it. This was is serving both sides and the Schwab club of murder and death.
You are beyond clueless. Zelensky is controlled by the Davos Group. They want WW3 to cover for the global financial collapse, and Zelinsky is their puppet to reach that agenda.
You should be making six figures as a pundit with your in-depth knowledge of what I am clueless about. I usually don’t make a point of insulting people I disagree with but in your case…
Actually I agree with everything you said about Zelensky, so there must be something wrong with me.
We must not overlook Russia and Putins role in all of this, they are not blameless.
Yeah, I guess if someone punches me in the face and I retaliate, we both are at fault. The Ukraine Azov brigade has been shelling the hell out of the Doobas (sp) region for some time and Putin said ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH. And now we are seeing the results. Someone punches me in the face and I'm going to kick them up side their head with my size 15 shoe. And I guess according to your reasoning, I'd be wrong to defend myself with aggression against my aggressor. Well you castrated men need to start a club and hang out together. DAMN if I see the Putin is WRONG defending the Doobas RUSSIANS.
My motto is to disagree without being disagreeable. There is always middle ground, and the way to find it and perhaps learn in the process seems to escape some people.
If you hit someone, then they punch you in the face, and you retaliate - I'll let you figure it out.
Considering your selective history, I'm not all that surprised that you have a hard time seeing where Putin is at fault. And to see poor Putin as anything other than an aggressor is as selective as it gets. Russian/Soviet 'aggression' in Ukraine has a history going back hundreds of years, as apposed to the recent history of Ukrainian retaliation. That's why your allegory would work much better if you are Ukraine.
I'm sorry if the real world is messy and complicated, and doesn't fit with the simple picture you want.
I guess that's one way to look at it, so that you don't need to express an opinion or call out the one whose army invaded (and flattened) another country.
Better not look TOO closely. 1] If your referring to current 'Pre Avoidable conflict' in Ukraine, start with U.S 'Overthrow' of Democratic Govt., of Ukraine 2014 & 'Lead up' in 2013- Maidan revolution . Possibly check 'Ukraine on Fire' Documentary- Oliver Stone. 2016, for background.
2] Then research 1941 Waffen SS & SD squads Ukraine Galicia Division. Extending to Post WW2 'Ethnic Operations'.
3] ALL Operational Metrics, M.O. & Ethos of Paramilitary units such as AZOV & the Right Sector, Now absorbed into the Main Ukrainian Military. Note similarities & "Coincidences' to SS Das Reich Insignias & 'Ethnic outlooks'.
4] Russian forwarded 'Minsk Agreement'.
There is ALWAYS MORE, than 'meets the eye'. Without getting Bogged down in detail, 'Purposeful' Russian Antagonisations by 'Globalist Interests', has led to Inevitable FORCED Actions by Kremlin Forces!
I'm 4th Gen Australian. I DO NOT remember 'Global Sanctions' against the 'Allies of the Willing', from Pre Genocide disguised as 'Trade Sanctions' for 10 Years against Iraqi Civilians', THEN, Illegal invasions of the 'Crusades Round 2', IRAQ, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen (STILL ongoing) & a raft of other Sovereign Nations 'Train Wrecks', left in the Rear view mirror, by 'Collectively US'!
If Folks want to break open the tar Brush, or have got a Supply of Industrial gravel whilst living in a Chrystal palace, they should Firstly, 'Square away' their own front yard!
Sun Tzu's - 5th Century B.C. Strategies 'Art of War', ARE still relevant today.
WISDOM, unfortunately has been Brutalised & Exiled from Modern Interactive Metrics, & deemed NOT 'Cherishable' - Apparently.
Stop trying to sway him with facts. Facts no longer matter. What counts is how "woke" he is. I live in the most evil country filled with mindless zombies in the world. The United Sovietized States of America.
At least there is a forum for a Right to reply. As far as thinking goes, Everyone is wired a certain way. Added into this, different to THE pre industrial & Ancient world, we now have Latent chemicals & Electronics in which we are bathed & have to operate/ Navigate somehow, 'Normally'.
Pre Con Job 19, it was difficult enough for Kids to have some form of Non Controlled program normality. Now?
So what is a Concept of 'Perceived Reality'? Kids are great! When as a Child, we are free- generally, to explore, engineer, Create & Cobble stuff together. The cuts, bruises & anatomical dent from our 'quasi engineering', led us to resolve & improve deficient issues of design & relative outcomes - Simply. KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. - "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
General Kids absorb, PRE unnatural 'Woke programming', information & have a flexible attitude to same. Logic generally worked out the principles to keep, & a sliding scale of what to Ditch, or hybridise to suit purpose. Alas the growing up of self to adulthood & 'Solidification' of Singular attitude & Biases, brings us to where we all are today - This is a generalisation. Those who realise some of this are not challenged by opposite thought & antagonisms- Unless it steps passed a reasonably acceptable line. Then it's best left at that point & dissipated by withdrawal of any further energy input. At least a possible residual 'Seed' has been left behind for Future germination. I'm 'Older', and Still Learning - Hopefully.
You're right, it is complicated, and there is more - so why do (arbitrarily) start your (selective) history lesson in 1941? If you ignore the long history of Russian/Soviet occupation, you might misunderstand the following 80+ years.
Russia has legitimate grips with Ukraine, but they are relatively recent, and Russia cannot ignore its own history or how it has contributed (if not caused) the situation, even if you seem to be able to.
How far back historically would 'Anyone' wish to go, to 'Trial' our collective outcomes of the Current moment? '41, was only for the 'Modernists' & an understanding of Current 'Discussion Local' - Specific Ukraine situational, & Paramilitary Unit input parameters 'Directed Ethos'. Grab a Beverage Dave & Chill! In an Era of Folks not remembering Yesterdays everchanging Media & Govt Propaganda 'Part Manufactured' outputs, & lucky to collectively understand the Purpose of a Postage stamp, means 'Simplicity of Metrics' is paramount.
'41 for Y'All! Whoa, back up even a little bit more! Excuse me while I dig up, Young Sophie! Sorry, Catherine the 'Great' & check her Architectural Inputs not only in Russia, but Her 'Builds' in the Ukraine - That Russian 'Bitch'! What was She Thinking? Hand me that Chisel please Dave, All this Marble to get thru!" Wonder if the priests will mind?
"HELLO MY GOOD WOMAN!"
There is a moment of 'Crossing the void', with You projecting an 'Energetic continued conflict', & Yet! If you have some latent angst Brother, for me, it is of no Moment. It's only a sharing of ideas & fluidity of possibilities. NOT a Full assault on ideas by any, or anyone's Metric.
AND SO! "This is NOT 50 questions of Who the FUCK is Russia To share their Caviar & Vodka!" Is that a Balalaika I hear in the Background? KOOL! LIFE!
"SORRY MATE! BAN THAT SHIT - IT'S RUSSIAN - WANKERS! BAN THEIR CATS! BAN TCHAIKOVSKY! BAN SIKORSKY AIRCRAFT! BAN - Whoa - SHIT! I'm Australian. Haven't they or aren't THEY, a part of Lockheed Martin, Operating IN Australia & the U.States? O.K! THEIR O.K.!
Meanwhile back @ Cat's Tomb;
"GOOD NEWS! SOPHIE'S STILL GREAT! WHAT A RUSSIAN CHICK! - Outshone Many a Male, thru History! I thank Her for her Contribution to History AND, THE Planet! AND, Her OUTSTANDING RUSSIAN / UKRAINIAN Architectural Legacy & Cultural / Science Renaissance Inputs! YEAH BABE!"
SHIT! I suppose we should Re Entomb her. LOOK! I've crumpled her Dress! BUGGER! Pass me those Tiles please Dave. Perhaps No one will notice!
Wellness to You.
Young David, maybe you've missed your 'calling'! You're not a member of Israeli Unit 8200, pray tell? - Joke Dave. Or is it?
Being a veteran and knowing the horrors of war from a very personal point of view, has taught me that all wars should be avoided. I am against them all, when someone invades my country I fight them to the death without expecting any help from someone else. Just my personal opinion.
Greetings Young Bert. Being a Conflict Vet, you will probably understand the concept that is 'Shadow warriors'. Feudal Japan had their Ninjas, The Napoleonic Secret security services, forwarding to Mid Modern OSS morphing into the CIA, the English had MI5/6/# & - Each developing Country, Each History of Same, & On. These 'Departments of Acronym' still exist today, in League with the NEO Commercial Shadow Warriors - Hedge Funds such as Blackrock/ Vanguard/ State Street! There 'WEB' is ALL! & STILL, NO 'Definitive Enemy Focal Point', for All the World to see! - That'd be 'PROPER Tricksies'!
The personal point of view was from my Son who was a conflict vet of six tours 3 in Iraq and 3 in Afghanistan. He gave me a perspective of horror, loss, and sadness. Only part of him came home from those wars. That is the reason I dislike them so much, waiting for that green car to come up our driveway for six years, with the worst news. He is as normal as can be expected.
His stories are a testament. I was lucky enough to avoid a war when serving on the tail end of Vietnam. Many of my friends came home the same way as my Son or worse. I feel lucky to have missed it.
Previously, in what would be described as 'Conventional war' Invasions, Folks reactions would be just so. Modern warfare using Previous 'Boots on the ground', is only isolated to specific theatres, with economic 'Foreign' investments via Govt & Corporates in Any particular Nation being much more 'Economically Viable' & subtle. -Plus 'Boots on the ground' are 'Messy', Expensive by All metrics, can time wise 'Stretch on' & start affecting Home Invasion forces Population Psych & Not Endearing to the Invaded locals unless said Invasions are at least 'Popular' with same!
'Foreign' Investments also includes investments aimed at leveraged control of that Countries Govt & Infrastructures, with Private ownerships of Banking sector, Public Transport & critical utilities being a major priority! THE 'Enemy', possibly 1 of the 3 Major Global hedge Funds controlling the Commerce, are NOT Conventional, as an 'Enemy', so there's no 'Hard & Fast' representation of a Camo uniform to 'Focus on'! Via the same 'Commercial Leverages', THE 'Home' Government becomes THE 'Foreign Interests' Representative & endorses , Enacts whatever is required for their New Masters, But with a Pro citizen Persona, & gauged Tyranny! Where's THE Enemy to fight?
This of course ALL changes with internal Revolution or Civil wars!
'War avoidance' - Absolutely! If we are Actually 'Civilised', WE, should be well passed IT!
I want to know, that if the Globalists & their PET Global Govts 'Pushing' 1 of their Many Bullshit Agendas - 'Carbon Emissions & Enviro reserves', DO ALL of the Govts, Weapons (Including Platforms) & Ordinance Manufacturers, & ALL of the war Paraphernalia, get a 'Get out of Gaol' Free CO2 & Emissions credit card?- Maybe ADD the Swindle that is Alternate Energy 'Tech' 'Cleanliness into the same mix.
Reading this piece I was reminded of the war literature I like, then I stumbled on the Sassoon poem at the end. That's one. The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien is another. I wish we there were no need for such pieces, as great as they are. Or that they could be powerfully distant, like the Iliad. I wish there were no reason for you to write this piece, Good Citizen. Glad you did, though.
God will not help you or anyone else. Don't believe the religions dogma, it will enslave you. The Divine Creator gives humans free will to make choices and to bear the consequences of those decisions and actions. With freedom comes personal responsibility.
I agree. Yet you can cry out to God without any belief in religion or its dogma. The Divine Creator empowers us in our free will and emboldens our choices.
Hmm. First off, why do you think I believe in "religious dogma," or that I don't think I have free will, or that I don't bear consequences... And second, don't tell me what to believe, what "God" will or will not do, or anyone else. Who are YOU? Just another fella, y'know. Big talk from little britches, dude.
Because you are saying: "God help us." This is a common belief in the Christian and Islamic religion. They think God is standing by, with nothing better to do than save our sorry asses, when we are suffering from the bad choices we have made and continue to make in out lives. God gives you free will, and you are on your own. And as an aside, I don't care what you believe. When I tell someone "don't do it", of course they are free to do what they wish. "Big talk from little britches." You have no idea who I am and what I have done in life. Your defensive attitude has earned an ignore from me. No further communication will be forthcoming from my side. Good luck........you are going to need it.
Hmmm. Defensive, me? OK. You can read this or not. Projection is a very common activity among humans, I am well accustomed to it. Communication is difficult enough without the added problems of no facial expression and no tone of voice. You still seem to be saying that you know better than I, and also that you know what I think. It would behoove you to have just an ounce of humility, because arrogance is so unbecoming. I really am not sure just why you feel so attacked! Whatever. Peace.
As a veteran, I would hope that you would stand with the Ukrainians fighting for their (imperfect) freedom, as well as for the poor Russian conscripts fighting for Putin glory.
I am constantly always surprised by those who are freedom fighters in their own imagination, but in the real world are shills for authoritarian governments.
We already know that you are paid for your 'opinions'. Judging by your comments, it doesn't seem to be because of any wisdom or expertise you bring, so I can only conclude it's because of your willingness to defend the undefendable. I have seen how people preserve the actions of others through the lens of their own actions and biases. Maybe that's why you have a hard time understanding people actually speaking their mind or standing for principles. I hope you were well compensated for yours.
As for the content of your 'comments', all I have seen is your defense of an Authoritarian, or attacking the scary 'Globalists'. Is that your idea of freedom?
"Speaking our mind." That means nothing. It is easy to run one's mouth. You have proven that. And now .......our conversation is at end. Good luck, you are going to need it.
And you aren't what you are claiming others are? Give me a break. You think the Authoritarian government of Ukraine is better then the Russian one. And you think the USA is run by saints. Have your meds checked. The side effects are obvious.
What is it with the misquoting? Is it too hard to respond to what I actually said? No country is run by saints, and only a child would expect one to be. Countries are run by (often flawed) people, with some being better than others, but none are perfect.
I never said that Ukraine is not a model country, but it sure seems to be doing better as building a democratic government than Russia. Not to mention that many of the causes for this can be laid at the feet of the 100+ years of Russian/Soviet/Russian rule. To ignore that is to live in la-la land.
No doubt that Russia is invading--as a legitimate response to the Ukrainian governments refusal to institute the agreement they signed (Minsk II) and their 8 year program of random shelling/bombing of the civilian population centers of the DonBass
And didn't the people of the DonBass BEG Putin to come and protect them from the Ukrainians (and their pet Nazis) since they've been getting bombed by their own govt. since 2014?
I think you've said some very healthy things on this thread, and wanted to support that. Sometimes my "likes" don't take, for techy reasons, it seems. But while I do think that Russia went into Donbass to protect their ethnic bretheren (and sisteren?), I agree with what you're saying. There are those who understand the horror of war because they've experienced it for themselves, and those who feel some urge to experience it... which is why young men are so very dangerous, and need things like sports and other tests of mettle that are NOT war... And I'm not saying this to be mean to young men, as they are as precious as anyone else-- just full of immense vital energy that could be put to a much better use than killing each other, and women & children as well. YOU understand. Young non-soldiers do not.
“I look at that boy dyin’, I don’t feel nothin’. I don’t care about nothin’ anymore.”
Sergeant Storm from The Thin Red Line.
Alas, we find ourselves detached and desensitized to horrors that only happen “over there”. We watch and feign pity and disgust over those evil perpetrators of perpetual warfare and then turn that dull heart to our next self aggrandizing “Like” and “Thumbs up” on our virtual world of self hate and other torture.
Do we really feel anymore or are our hearts and minds deaf and dumb?
Just wait, for one day the tortured cries will shriek forth from the lungs of our children and grandchildren.
We chose this path, we watch and remain silent, we watch and then we look away.
"Damn us." .......Don't damn me, I never voted for any Democrat or Republican. What fool would vote for Orange Judas or brain dead Biden? Our last President was Kennedy, and then the coup. I never joined the military, and I have never given money to any candidate. During the 60s and 70s, my generation and I put our asses on the line to stop the war in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. We marched and were beaten and gassed by the cops, national guard, and Nixon's "hard hats" who attacked the protesters at every demonstration. We never stopped nor did we relent. Did we end the war? Who knows, but we gave it everything we had .
Explain Orange Judas…we had prosperity with DJT, pretty much peace in the world and race relations were becoming stable after years of obama race baiting. Life with DJT at the helm was pretty good.
Orange Judas is the King of the Clot shot. He initiated the National Emergency and the first two week lockdown, that never went away. He put Fauci in charge of the national oppression. He stood by while BLM and ANTIFA burned down American cities. He is responsible for the upcoming death of millions who took the jab, which destroys natural immunity. He continues to push the death jab. Were you a good little Trumpster and did you take the shot as he suggested? He betrayed his followers from day one. The ONLY campaign promise he kept was to Israel. No surprise there. He betrayed Julian Assange who helped him win the first election. He betrayed his followers by luring them to the Capitol ,and then, when the Democrats let them in, and claimed insurrection, Trump was happy to let them rot in jail. How did you miss all of this? Has your misplaced fealty to Orange Judas blinded you to reality?
Never forget that DJT also undid the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, approved a pipeline through Native land (well, our entire Continent is NATIVE LAND!), endangering drinking water for millions, imposed a "Muslim travel ban," allowed our country to be locked down and illegal mandates to be implemented, used his status as President to enrich himself, made highly questionable statements about neo-Nazis and how police should behave, he told a sheriff to ‘destroy’ the career of a senator who opposed police officers being able to seize assets... well, the list goes on. I think the lesson here isn't really about Dem v. Repub, it's about MONEY and POWER. My advice to everyone: NEVER, EVER trust a billionaire.
ALL of the chosen for us "leaders" are just that CHOSEN for us to pick between to give us the ILLUSION of choice. Anyone can see DJT is a psychopathic control freak just like all the rest. And his love of the clot shot just shows what a moronic fool he is. If he had done HALF the research that De Santis has or if he had only LISTENED to Dr. Scott Atlas, we wouldn't be watching people die all over the fucking place.
Orange Judas' love of the clot shot, which will eventually kill millions by destroying their natural immunity shows that: Either he is supreme evil or supreme stupidity. I pick both.
Everything on this planet moves in cycles. The Grand cycle is approximately 25,000 years.
During the grand cycle, humanity cycles up and cycles down. Consciousness cycles up and cycles down. We are in the midst of the Kali Yuga, the great age of darkness. Things that are happening on this planet can only happen during this cycle of darkness and depravity, and cannot be stopped. The good news is that in the 2020s the Kali Yuga comes to an end, and all the darkness is swept away in the Great Purification, as the Light begins to return. Everything is happening right on schedule. The planet earth is a tough school. I like to call it the Paris Island of the cosmos. Everything in life is about making choices and learning the lessons that come with said choices.
Yes, Gates and globalists want to block the sun, because it is the giver of life. It is also the great destroyer. The Ancients knew this, but modern man/woman is blind. The predominant state on the planet throughout history is cold: (ice ages and mini-ice ages) punctuated by brief periods of warning (like the one we enjoy now). We are headed for a sever cooling period, and a magnetic pole shift as part of the Great Purification. Volcanoes will erupt and the earth will quake. This is what will crush the plans of the globalists. They will win for awhile, but as the Game of Thrones so elegantly phrased it: "Winter is coming."
It is all a test. Every moment of every day, it is a test. Do we choose to embrace the darkness or walk in the light? During some cycles the choices are harder. During the Kali Yuga the choices are the most difficult, because human beings have spiraled down and all around us is chaos. It one passed the test during the Kali Yuga, this ensures a geeat leap in spiritual evolution for the graduate. That is why your higher Self has chosen for you to incarnate now.
The "war" in Ukraine seems to be an excuse for food shortages. Both sides are in it.
The most likely event at this point is a false flag attack in the US (EMP, biological/chemical and/or nuclear) in order to provide a basis for martial law and further shortages. Eventually, people will start looting and killing each other. With no fuel/electricity in December, the outcome is clear.
Agree. And why didn’t the citizens of Ukraine remove the monster, why haven’t we removed our monsters...........behind all wars are citizens who allowed the monsters to flourish to make the next war.
For the same reason Macaroon, Turdeau, and a number of others have not been removed: people are powerless; they have always been but failed to notice it, while on a longer leash.
No, I didn't; just didn't want to get into useless arguments with anyone.
The "world leaders" are in this together. The Presidents of Tanzania, Burundi, and Haiti didn't bite the bait (hundreds of millions of dollars in "aid," linked to enslaving conditions) and didn't last long after that. Belarus survived without any covid theater and they are among the fake opposition with Putin (who nevertheless, enforced a lot of crazy mandates and their injection is not much less lethal than the western versions and is certainly chock-full of graphene oxide and certain events suggest that graphene hydroxide is also used sometimes).
Because they, as opposed to you, are aware of the Russian bear that will swallow them whole.
I recommend reading up on the atrocities inflicted (and still being inflicted) by the Russian/Soviet occupation on the many peoples of the region. The countries of the Warsaw Pact know the cost of failure that you call for.
The average Ukrainian has been living under one of the most corrupt and oppressive regimes in the world for decades. As opposed to what you see on TV, they don't "hate Russians." They surely hate Stalin, but Stalin killed tens of millions of Russians, too.
The satellite states cost too much for the Soviets without any palpable benefits, so they let them go after they rationalized their domestic and foreign policies, but they had to go through the years of corruption after breaking up their union, while people were starving and everything for up to the grab for western "investors" (aka. vultures). The same process happened in most satellite states (the Czech Republic is a notable exception) and many East Germans now would prefer the GDR over "freedom." In Hungary, more people froze to death in the first winter of "freedom" than the number of people the communists executed after 1956.
The US cannot be very proud of its current situation, either.
And yet, it is a freer, and more democratic, country than Russia (or Belarus...). And you are willing to give up on them and give them away. Don't you think that (imperfect) freedom is something worth fighting for?
FYI: Ukraine is rated 122 in the 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), 14 places above Russia, and 143 in the Global Peace Index (GPI), 12 places above Russia. In the 2021 Democracy Index, Ukraine (classified as 'Hybrid regime') is ranked at 86, with Russia (classified as 'Authoritarian') at 124. When it comes to press freedom (2021 World Press Freedom Index), Ukraine is ranked at 97, with Russia at 150.
In spite of Ukraine being (as you said) "one of the most corrupt and oppressive regimes in the world", they have had more regime changes (through elections) than many of the authoritarians round them (such as Russia). Do you think that they want to return to 'Mother Russia'? In spite of this glorious victory, thousands of Russians are leaving their country.
So if you call Ukraine corrupt, what would you call Russia?
Ukraine may not have created a perfect democratic government, but they have made a lot of improvements (as have many other ex-communist countries). Creating a democracy is hard, but freedom is something worth working for. Don't you agree? Why don't we let them find their own way?
Beware, because no one is as susceptible to propaganda as one who is delusional enough to think themselves immune. You might even think that you thought it all up yourself.
Ukraine is one of the worst sh*tholes in the world; the "refugees" from there are indeed fleeing from extreme poverty and uncertainty, and they don't need a war on TV to feel justified about it. In 2014, they did not exactly have an election; instead, foreign mercenaries fired into a crowd and the elected government (well, are there any real elections anywhere?) was routed. The Donbas has been shelled ever since for demanding autonomy, which was against the oligarchs' business interests, the the Azon Battalion et al. were hired to do the job.
Freedom in the US? Most Americans were not even allowed to go about their business without being muzzled like a mad dog for about two years and many lost their jobs, because they refused to comming medical suicide with one of the "mandatory" lethal injections.
During the same two years, the executive branch has been posing as legislative and it all went unchallenged. "Presidential executive orders" have been issued, ignoring constitutional rights, much in the likeness of the way parliaments were circumvented in Eastern Europe under communism.
Please, name a single one of our "liberties" that has not been ignored or even trodded upon...
Who conducted the research and who paid for the statistics you are quoting? On what bases were the results established? How was it possible to measure them?
Democracy, already according to Aristotle, is the rule of the mob. Only constitutional rights can alleviate some of that burden. We call it a Republic around here, but the US Constitution after 2001 became just about as relevant as an old copy of Pravda in an abandoned Siberian outhouse.
Also, "democracy" is probably the most corrupt form of government. What Zelensky has recently "improved" was that he subscribed to the "Great Reset." That, of course, is even worse than "democracy." Okay, you are welcome to name at least ONE of the "improvements" you are talking about. Since Ukraine became independent, Russian, Polish, and Hungarian were forbidden in education. Are you talking about such "improvements"?
Russia, much like the US, is ruled by oligarchs. At least, citizens are not starving. The average monthly wage in Ukraine was around $50-100 a month in the last 30 years...
Don't pretend I don't know who you are. My posts are for other people, who still possess the power of thinking.
Ad hominem attacks only debase you, assuming you are not an AI, which you probably are. Or worse, but who cares under the circumstances. If you are a live human being, you are also a victim, even if you still do not know that.
Of course, you are losing your train of thought; apparently, you have not had much of that sort of thing. :)
Oh, and I'm not selling anything. By 2005, I had developed the algorithm that the monsters have been using since 2013, but I never sold it, because I knew that whoever would own it, would own the world.
What most people need to understand that there will be no winners here.
The enforcers, spies, and fake scientists will wear out their usefulness, once the "opposition" is eliminated, and they will be next in line to the slaughterhouse. No matter how much they get paid now, it will not be worth a penny after the installation of the digital currency (fiat money with no backup) that they will be able to access only when their bodies are "online" and only for "good behavior." Their Kill Switch will be included free of charge...
Unless they realize what's awaiting them, humanity doesn't have a chance. Not that it has ever had much, based on human behavior...
I wonder, though. Can the American commanders and the Azov nutcases prevent those young Ukrainians from just surrendering? Can't fight a war if the troops just won't fight.
I heard a theory that this is how WWI ended. The soldiers on both sides literally gave up and turned on their governments. How much of the history books can we trust given the lies we all hear now? I really don’t know.
Ritual human sacrifice for profit and pleasure by the psychopaths. And the sleeperwalkers continue waving their fucking blue and yellow flags like it's a parade. Thank you, GC, for your powerful and moving words.
Absurd. There is no devil. Every moment in time, each individual must make the choice to walk in darkness or embrace the light. It is called free will, and it is a blessing, although for most people it is a curse.
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Well said. This would be appropriate for every war since the beginning of time. This war will also help with the depopulation goal of the WEF that COVID did not reach. The defense contractors across the world will become richer as they always do. War is good business for them.
I agree, this is all inter related and part of the Great Reset. A town in Italy now has adopted the Social credit model that China has. It is coming in waves.
I paused “a man's search for meaning” audiobook that I am listening to at the moment ( https://dailyprogress.org ), to read this article.
Compelled service offends me greatly.
Just as compelled speech, injections, religion, or anything else, is reprehensible.
I am happy to fight, suffer, and die for that which I choose. I fear not death, but rather I fear the acceptance of a compelled existence that I have no say in, no control over, because another in a position of “power” says I have no rights, no personal agency.
We live in a world that has been run by psychopaths for centuries. A war to end all wars will be when the normal people take on the mind set of the psychopaths for a short while and purge them from our existence. There are many more normal people then those who are psychopathic control freaks. When we finally rise up against them we just may have some peace until more mutants come from the wombs of the unsuspecting. There is a way to know now...who they will be, what they are.
Light Triad vs. Dark Triad
Sheepdogs vs. Wolves
Individualism vs Collectivism
We the People need to identify & classify the good, the bad, and the malignant to prepare a proper “immune” response.
Hadrian and Vespasian came closest to wiping out the group causing all the wars on the planet, the past 250 years. Uncle A gave them swimming pools. I would invest every dollar I have remaining, in super oven technology, so we can make all the Holohoax fables reality.
Taking on the midset of the psychopath is unnecessary.
Winter is coming, and a magnetic pole shift in the 2020s. Mother nature bats last.
Agreed. If it is a just war, one where the survival of our country is at stake, there should be enough volunteers to defend the realm. If not, perhaps it is better that way. If the powers that be have failed to convince the military-age people that continuing to have them in charge is better than whatever the invaders have to offer, maybe the would-be defenders are right.
I first heard that point of view from an invited guest speaker of the College Republicans in my first year at a state university, from a member of the Objectivist Society (Ayn Rand). I'd long thought that it was innately contradictory to enslave people in the name of protecting their freedom, but this was the first time I heard someone else say it.
The College Republicans didn't agree with the Objectivists on a broad variety of issues, and I would imagine that was one of them. Still, they invited Objectivists to come make their pitch. No protests or catcalls or attempts to drown out the speaker... just people listening and either agreeing or disagreeing politely.
I thought that was what higher education was supposed to be about. Hear other viewpoints, give 'em a fair shot, think about whether you had it wrong. While the leftist capture of academia was well underway by this point, it was before the collapse of the USSR and the resultant "taking our eye off the ball" when everyone thought the threat of socialism and communism had ended, which only caused the leftists to accelerate their efforts. The regime that spawned the subversive movement within western countries was gone, but it didn't mean the radicalized fellow travelers suddenly decided they were wrong and embraced capitalism.
Old men send young men to die. Propaganda is used to stir false patriotism.
The old men get profit and power, the young men are cannon fodder.
There is no glory in being cannon fodder.
I'm an old man at 86 and I send no one to die.Why are so many picking on and hating old people? Like don't give poison shots to kids ,but give them to old people ,they need it . They don't have long to wait for the old ones to die ,old age always takes care of that .
Be real. He isn't talking about just any old man. OBVIOUSLY.
You're talking abut Russia and Putin, right?
No, he's talking about the old men who sent young men to die in the War of Southern Independence, in WW I, in WW II, in Vietnam, in Korea, in the streets of the US as "law enforcers", in the wars of aggression in Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Granada, Iraq, Libya, Syria...the places are endlessly filled with the blood of innocents. WHY? Because we don't use our arms to eliminate the scum psychopathic control freaks from our midst.
So Putin isn't an old man who sent poor young men to die in his name? Maybe you think he's an old lady?
So I have to be specific and say names? I don't think so. My point is obvious.
You can be as specific, or vague, as you want to. I do understand your point.
It seems to me that you feel betrayed by 'the west' (or however you want to call your country), and want to blame someone. You are placing the blame on everyone, except for the one (old man) who actually ordered his forces to invade and destroy another country, and I find that to be strange. You support freedom, but fail to lay the blame at the feed of one who has consisted denied freedom from hundreds of millions of his own people, and is trying to subjugate tens of millions more.
I would expect an adult to know that people and leaders (and governments) are not perfect, and it would be childish to be disappointed by their unrealistic expectations. In this case, the 'good/bad people on both sides' may actually be relevant. But don't let this 'Nirvana fallacy' keep us from calling out the atrocities, that we know are happening.
I'm sure you will have plenty of chances to call other countries for their acts, as well.
Well, you can suck up to the propaganda if you like. Which you obviously are doing, but if you look at REALITY the reason the Russians invaded was to OUST the not so old con man running the Ukraine. He was allowing the continual bombardment of the RUSSIAN people of Doobas (sp) and was warned over and over and of course you don't read that side of the narrative. You've got it in your mind that Putin just woke up one day and decided to invade the Ukraine. That's bullshit. He wants the NAZI'S OUT of the Ukraine and he has acknowledged the SUCCESSION of the Doobas region and is PROTECTING them. I've been following this on Telegram and frankly I'm GLAD that those Russians in that region are being helped because 14,000 of them lost their lives to the coke addict running the Ukraine INTO the GROUND. And the USA is the biggest terrorist threat to the entire planet. Just in case you haven't figured that out yet. FUCK the "the leadership" of this country. You have to be MAD to go along with their horseshit.
Congratulations, you are like most NPCs in the West. They have put a trap door into your mind and then they pour in the propaganda, and you repeat like a parrot. How does it feel to lose all ability at critical thinking? How does it feel to be on the side of the Globalists at DAVOS? Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates thank you for your support.
And your point (besides the personal attach) is?
How does it feel to be on the side of dictators and authoritarians? I have a feeling that you don't care, as long as they pet your head, put some money in your bowl and tell you that you've been a good boy.
They all deserve blame in this.
Read my reply to David, it applies to you as well.
I don' t take sides on these deals. This whole thing was avoidable by both sides. Neither side has the courage or the moral compass to end it. This was is serving both sides and the Schwab club of murder and death.
You are beyond clueless. Zelensky is controlled by the Davos Group. They want WW3 to cover for the global financial collapse, and Zelinsky is their puppet to reach that agenda.
You should be making six figures as a pundit with your in-depth knowledge of what I am clueless about. I usually don’t make a point of insulting people I disagree with but in your case…
Actually I agree with everything you said about Zelensky, so there must be something wrong with me.
We must not overlook Russia and Putins role in all of this, they are not blameless.
Yeah, I guess if someone punches me in the face and I retaliate, we both are at fault. The Ukraine Azov brigade has been shelling the hell out of the Doobas (sp) region for some time and Putin said ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH. And now we are seeing the results. Someone punches me in the face and I'm going to kick them up side their head with my size 15 shoe. And I guess according to your reasoning, I'd be wrong to defend myself with aggression against my aggressor. Well you castrated men need to start a club and hang out together. DAMN if I see the Putin is WRONG defending the Doobas RUSSIANS.
My motto is to disagree without being disagreeable. There is always middle ground, and the way to find it and perhaps learn in the process seems to escape some people.
If you hit someone, then they punch you in the face, and you retaliate - I'll let you figure it out.
Considering your selective history, I'm not all that surprised that you have a hard time seeing where Putin is at fault. And to see poor Putin as anything other than an aggressor is as selective as it gets. Russian/Soviet 'aggression' in Ukraine has a history going back hundreds of years, as apposed to the recent history of Ukrainian retaliation. That's why your allegory would work much better if you are Ukraine.
I'm sorry if the real world is messy and complicated, and doesn't fit with the simple picture you want.
I guess that's one way to look at it, so that you don't need to express an opinion or call out the one whose army invaded (and flattened) another country.
Better not look TOO closely. 1] If your referring to current 'Pre Avoidable conflict' in Ukraine, start with U.S 'Overthrow' of Democratic Govt., of Ukraine 2014 & 'Lead up' in 2013- Maidan revolution . Possibly check 'Ukraine on Fire' Documentary- Oliver Stone. 2016, for background.
2] Then research 1941 Waffen SS & SD squads Ukraine Galicia Division. Extending to Post WW2 'Ethnic Operations'.
3] ALL Operational Metrics, M.O. & Ethos of Paramilitary units such as AZOV & the Right Sector, Now absorbed into the Main Ukrainian Military. Note similarities & "Coincidences' to SS Das Reich Insignias & 'Ethnic outlooks'.
4] Russian forwarded 'Minsk Agreement'.
There is ALWAYS MORE, than 'meets the eye'. Without getting Bogged down in detail, 'Purposeful' Russian Antagonisations by 'Globalist Interests', has led to Inevitable FORCED Actions by Kremlin Forces!
I'm 4th Gen Australian. I DO NOT remember 'Global Sanctions' against the 'Allies of the Willing', from Pre Genocide disguised as 'Trade Sanctions' for 10 Years against Iraqi Civilians', THEN, Illegal invasions of the 'Crusades Round 2', IRAQ, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen (STILL ongoing) & a raft of other Sovereign Nations 'Train Wrecks', left in the Rear view mirror, by 'Collectively US'!
If Folks want to break open the tar Brush, or have got a Supply of Industrial gravel whilst living in a Chrystal palace, they should Firstly, 'Square away' their own front yard!
Sun Tzu's - 5th Century B.C. Strategies 'Art of War', ARE still relevant today.
WISDOM, unfortunately has been Brutalised & Exiled from Modern Interactive Metrics, & deemed NOT 'Cherishable' - Apparently.
Wellness to You.
Stop trying to sway him with facts. Facts no longer matter. What counts is how "woke" he is. I live in the most evil country filled with mindless zombies in the world. The United Sovietized States of America.
At least there is a forum for a Right to reply. As far as thinking goes, Everyone is wired a certain way. Added into this, different to THE pre industrial & Ancient world, we now have Latent chemicals & Electronics in which we are bathed & have to operate/ Navigate somehow, 'Normally'.
Pre Con Job 19, it was difficult enough for Kids to have some form of Non Controlled program normality. Now?
So what is a Concept of 'Perceived Reality'? Kids are great! When as a Child, we are free- generally, to explore, engineer, Create & Cobble stuff together. The cuts, bruises & anatomical dent from our 'quasi engineering', led us to resolve & improve deficient issues of design & relative outcomes - Simply. KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. - "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
General Kids absorb, PRE unnatural 'Woke programming', information & have a flexible attitude to same. Logic generally worked out the principles to keep, & a sliding scale of what to Ditch, or hybridise to suit purpose. Alas the growing up of self to adulthood & 'Solidification' of Singular attitude & Biases, brings us to where we all are today - This is a generalisation. Those who realise some of this are not challenged by opposite thought & antagonisms- Unless it steps passed a reasonably acceptable line. Then it's best left at that point & dissipated by withdrawal of any further energy input. At least a possible residual 'Seed' has been left behind for Future germination. I'm 'Older', and Still Learning - Hopefully.
Wellness to You.
You're right, it is complicated, and there is more - so why do (arbitrarily) start your (selective) history lesson in 1941? If you ignore the long history of Russian/Soviet occupation, you might misunderstand the following 80+ years.
Russia has legitimate grips with Ukraine, but they are relatively recent, and Russia cannot ignore its own history or how it has contributed (if not caused) the situation, even if you seem to be able to.
Are you Zalinsky's cuck? (SP) Apparently.
How far back historically would 'Anyone' wish to go, to 'Trial' our collective outcomes of the Current moment? '41, was only for the 'Modernists' & an understanding of Current 'Discussion Local' - Specific Ukraine situational, & Paramilitary Unit input parameters 'Directed Ethos'. Grab a Beverage Dave & Chill! In an Era of Folks not remembering Yesterdays everchanging Media & Govt Propaganda 'Part Manufactured' outputs, & lucky to collectively understand the Purpose of a Postage stamp, means 'Simplicity of Metrics' is paramount.
'41 for Y'All! Whoa, back up even a little bit more! Excuse me while I dig up, Young Sophie! Sorry, Catherine the 'Great' & check her Architectural Inputs not only in Russia, but Her 'Builds' in the Ukraine - That Russian 'Bitch'! What was She Thinking? Hand me that Chisel please Dave, All this Marble to get thru!" Wonder if the priests will mind?
"HELLO MY GOOD WOMAN!"
There is a moment of 'Crossing the void', with You projecting an 'Energetic continued conflict', & Yet! If you have some latent angst Brother, for me, it is of no Moment. It's only a sharing of ideas & fluidity of possibilities. NOT a Full assault on ideas by any, or anyone's Metric.
AND SO! "This is NOT 50 questions of Who the FUCK is Russia To share their Caviar & Vodka!" Is that a Balalaika I hear in the Background? KOOL! LIFE!
"SORRY MATE! BAN THAT SHIT - IT'S RUSSIAN - WANKERS! BAN THEIR CATS! BAN TCHAIKOVSKY! BAN SIKORSKY AIRCRAFT! BAN - Whoa - SHIT! I'm Australian. Haven't they or aren't THEY, a part of Lockheed Martin, Operating IN Australia & the U.States? O.K! THEIR O.K.!
Meanwhile back @ Cat's Tomb;
"GOOD NEWS! SOPHIE'S STILL GREAT! WHAT A RUSSIAN CHICK! - Outshone Many a Male, thru History! I thank Her for her Contribution to History AND, THE Planet! AND, Her OUTSTANDING RUSSIAN / UKRAINIAN Architectural Legacy & Cultural / Science Renaissance Inputs! YEAH BABE!"
SHIT! I suppose we should Re Entomb her. LOOK! I've crumpled her Dress! BUGGER! Pass me those Tiles please Dave. Perhaps No one will notice!
Wellness to You.
Young David, maybe you've missed your 'calling'! You're not a member of Israeli Unit 8200, pray tell? - Joke Dave. Or is it?
Being a veteran and knowing the horrors of war from a very personal point of view, has taught me that all wars should be avoided. I am against them all, when someone invades my country I fight them to the death without expecting any help from someone else. Just my personal opinion.
Greetings Young Bert. Being a Conflict Vet, you will probably understand the concept that is 'Shadow warriors'. Feudal Japan had their Ninjas, The Napoleonic Secret security services, forwarding to Mid Modern OSS morphing into the CIA, the English had MI5/6/# & - Each developing Country, Each History of Same, & On. These 'Departments of Acronym' still exist today, in League with the NEO Commercial Shadow Warriors - Hedge Funds such as Blackrock/ Vanguard/ State Street! There 'WEB' is ALL! & STILL, NO 'Definitive Enemy Focal Point', for All the World to see! - That'd be 'PROPER Tricksies'!
Wellness to you.
The personal point of view was from my Son who was a conflict vet of six tours 3 in Iraq and 3 in Afghanistan. He gave me a perspective of horror, loss, and sadness. Only part of him came home from those wars. That is the reason I dislike them so much, waiting for that green car to come up our driveway for six years, with the worst news. He is as normal as can be expected.
His stories are a testament. I was lucky enough to avoid a war when serving on the tail end of Vietnam. Many of my friends came home the same way as my Son or worse. I feel lucky to have missed it.
Previously, in what would be described as 'Conventional war' Invasions, Folks reactions would be just so. Modern warfare using Previous 'Boots on the ground', is only isolated to specific theatres, with economic 'Foreign' investments via Govt & Corporates in Any particular Nation being much more 'Economically Viable' & subtle. -Plus 'Boots on the ground' are 'Messy', Expensive by All metrics, can time wise 'Stretch on' & start affecting Home Invasion forces Population Psych & Not Endearing to the Invaded locals unless said Invasions are at least 'Popular' with same!
'Foreign' Investments also includes investments aimed at leveraged control of that Countries Govt & Infrastructures, with Private ownerships of Banking sector, Public Transport & critical utilities being a major priority! THE 'Enemy', possibly 1 of the 3 Major Global hedge Funds controlling the Commerce, are NOT Conventional, as an 'Enemy', so there's no 'Hard & Fast' representation of a Camo uniform to 'Focus on'! Via the same 'Commercial Leverages', THE 'Home' Government becomes THE 'Foreign Interests' Representative & endorses , Enacts whatever is required for their New Masters, But with a Pro citizen Persona, & gauged Tyranny! Where's THE Enemy to fight?
This of course ALL changes with internal Revolution or Civil wars!
'War avoidance' - Absolutely! If we are Actually 'Civilised', WE, should be well passed IT!
I want to know, that if the Globalists & their PET Global Govts 'Pushing' 1 of their Many Bullshit Agendas - 'Carbon Emissions & Enviro reserves', DO ALL of the Govts, Weapons (Including Platforms) & Ordinance Manufacturers, & ALL of the war Paraphernalia, get a 'Get out of Gaol' Free CO2 & Emissions credit card?- Maybe ADD the Swindle that is Alternate Energy 'Tech' 'Cleanliness into the same mix.
Wellness.
Reading this piece I was reminded of the war literature I like, then I stumbled on the Sassoon poem at the end. That's one. The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien is another. I wish we there were no need for such pieces, as great as they are. Or that they could be powerfully distant, like the Iliad. I wish there were no reason for you to write this piece, Good Citizen. Glad you did, though.
I'm weeping. God help us.
God will not help you or anyone else. Don't believe the religions dogma, it will enslave you. The Divine Creator gives humans free will to make choices and to bear the consequences of those decisions and actions. With freedom comes personal responsibility.
I agree. Yet you can cry out to God without any belief in religion or its dogma. The Divine Creator empowers us in our free will and emboldens our choices.
And I was using the word "God" in a metaphorical sense, for the sake of brevity. I suppose that is wrong, too? ;)
Hmm. First off, why do you think I believe in "religious dogma," or that I don't think I have free will, or that I don't bear consequences... And second, don't tell me what to believe, what "God" will or will not do, or anyone else. Who are YOU? Just another fella, y'know. Big talk from little britches, dude.
Because you are saying: "God help us." This is a common belief in the Christian and Islamic religion. They think God is standing by, with nothing better to do than save our sorry asses, when we are suffering from the bad choices we have made and continue to make in out lives. God gives you free will, and you are on your own. And as an aside, I don't care what you believe. When I tell someone "don't do it", of course they are free to do what they wish. "Big talk from little britches." You have no idea who I am and what I have done in life. Your defensive attitude has earned an ignore from me. No further communication will be forthcoming from my side. Good luck........you are going to need it.
Hmmm. Defensive, me? OK. You can read this or not. Projection is a very common activity among humans, I am well accustomed to it. Communication is difficult enough without the added problems of no facial expression and no tone of voice. You still seem to be saying that you know better than I, and also that you know what I think. It would behoove you to have just an ounce of humility, because arrogance is so unbecoming. I really am not sure just why you feel so attacked! Whatever. Peace.
As a combat veteran from that war 50+ years ago, I can only say no comment is possible nor needed
As a veteran, I would hope that you would stand with the Ukrainians fighting for their (imperfect) freedom, as well as for the poor Russian conscripts fighting for Putin glory.
How does it feel to be on the same side as the Globalists at Davos, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Barak Obamsa, Biden the imbecile, and Hillary Clinton?
I am constantly always surprised by those who are freedom fighters in their own imagination, but in the real world are shills for authoritarian governments.
Thank you for this fine example of projection.
We already know that you are paid for your 'opinions'. Judging by your comments, it doesn't seem to be because of any wisdom or expertise you bring, so I can only conclude it's because of your willingness to defend the undefendable. I have seen how people preserve the actions of others through the lens of their own actions and biases. Maybe that's why you have a hard time understanding people actually speaking their mind or standing for principles. I hope you were well compensated for yours.
As for the content of your 'comments', all I have seen is your defense of an Authoritarian, or attacking the scary 'Globalists'. Is that your idea of freedom?
"Speaking our mind." That means nothing. It is easy to run one's mouth. You have proven that. And now .......our conversation is at end. Good luck, you are going to need it.
And you aren't what you are claiming others are? Give me a break. You think the Authoritarian government of Ukraine is better then the Russian one. And you think the USA is run by saints. Have your meds checked. The side effects are obvious.
What is it with the misquoting? Is it too hard to respond to what I actually said? No country is run by saints, and only a child would expect one to be. Countries are run by (often flawed) people, with some being better than others, but none are perfect.
I never said that Ukraine is not a model country, but it sure seems to be doing better as building a democratic government than Russia. Not to mention that many of the causes for this can be laid at the feet of the 100+ years of Russian/Soviet/Russian rule. To ignore that is to live in la-la land.
I believe you are a bit confused as to who is doing what to whom
And who do you believe in invading?
No doubt that Russia is invading--as a legitimate response to the Ukrainian governments refusal to institute the agreement they signed (Minsk II) and their 8 year program of random shelling/bombing of the civilian population centers of the DonBass
And didn't the people of the DonBass BEG Putin to come and protect them from the Ukrainians (and their pet Nazis) since they've been getting bombed by their own govt. since 2014?
RIGHT! David lives in a Mad magazine rerun.
I think you've said some very healthy things on this thread, and wanted to support that. Sometimes my "likes" don't take, for techy reasons, it seems. But while I do think that Russia went into Donbass to protect their ethnic bretheren (and sisteren?), I agree with what you're saying. There are those who understand the horror of war because they've experienced it for themselves, and those who feel some urge to experience it... which is why young men are so very dangerous, and need things like sports and other tests of mettle that are NOT war... And I'm not saying this to be mean to young men, as they are as precious as anyone else-- just full of immense vital energy that could be put to a much better use than killing each other, and women & children as well. YOU understand. Young non-soldiers do not.
This is the most powerful article I have read in a very long time.
When they decide war got too messy it will be back to safe and Effective
Hacksxxxxxxxxxine depopulation with the help of big Harmaceuticals
When too many die, start a war to distract from the death by needlerape with more death....
Rinse , repeat
“I look at that boy dyin’, I don’t feel nothin’. I don’t care about nothin’ anymore.”
Sergeant Storm from The Thin Red Line.
Alas, we find ourselves detached and desensitized to horrors that only happen “over there”. We watch and feign pity and disgust over those evil perpetrators of perpetual warfare and then turn that dull heart to our next self aggrandizing “Like” and “Thumbs up” on our virtual world of self hate and other torture.
Do we really feel anymore or are our hearts and minds deaf and dumb?
Just wait, for one day the tortured cries will shriek forth from the lungs of our children and grandchildren.
We chose this path, we watch and remain silent, we watch and then we look away.
Alas, what happens when we can look away no more.
Damn us!!!!
"Damn us." .......Don't damn me, I never voted for any Democrat or Republican. What fool would vote for Orange Judas or brain dead Biden? Our last President was Kennedy, and then the coup. I never joined the military, and I have never given money to any candidate. During the 60s and 70s, my generation and I put our asses on the line to stop the war in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. We marched and were beaten and gassed by the cops, national guard, and Nixon's "hard hats" who attacked the protesters at every demonstration. We never stopped nor did we relent. Did we end the war? Who knows, but we gave it everything we had .
Explain Orange Judas…we had prosperity with DJT, pretty much peace in the world and race relations were becoming stable after years of obama race baiting. Life with DJT at the helm was pretty good.
Orange Judas is the King of the Clot shot. He initiated the National Emergency and the first two week lockdown, that never went away. He put Fauci in charge of the national oppression. He stood by while BLM and ANTIFA burned down American cities. He is responsible for the upcoming death of millions who took the jab, which destroys natural immunity. He continues to push the death jab. Were you a good little Trumpster and did you take the shot as he suggested? He betrayed his followers from day one. The ONLY campaign promise he kept was to Israel. No surprise there. He betrayed Julian Assange who helped him win the first election. He betrayed his followers by luring them to the Capitol ,and then, when the Democrats let them in, and claimed insurrection, Trump was happy to let them rot in jail. How did you miss all of this? Has your misplaced fealty to Orange Judas blinded you to reality?
Tell it.
Thank you.
I think that you give Agent Orange too much credit.
Shocker...something we agree on.
Never forget that DJT also undid the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, approved a pipeline through Native land (well, our entire Continent is NATIVE LAND!), endangering drinking water for millions, imposed a "Muslim travel ban," allowed our country to be locked down and illegal mandates to be implemented, used his status as President to enrich himself, made highly questionable statements about neo-Nazis and how police should behave, he told a sheriff to ‘destroy’ the career of a senator who opposed police officers being able to seize assets... well, the list goes on. I think the lesson here isn't really about Dem v. Repub, it's about MONEY and POWER. My advice to everyone: NEVER, EVER trust a billionaire.
Never trust ANYONE who thinks they have the right to lord over you.
ALL of the chosen for us "leaders" are just that CHOSEN for us to pick between to give us the ILLUSION of choice. Anyone can see DJT is a psychopathic control freak just like all the rest. And his love of the clot shot just shows what a moronic fool he is. If he had done HALF the research that De Santis has or if he had only LISTENED to Dr. Scott Atlas, we wouldn't be watching people die all over the fucking place.
Orange Judas' love of the clot shot, which will eventually kill millions by destroying their natural immunity shows that: Either he is supreme evil or supreme stupidity. I pick both.
Let us not forget......Deagle has forecasted that the population of the United States will reduce from 316 million to 69 million by 2025.
Everything on this planet moves in cycles. The Grand cycle is approximately 25,000 years.
During the grand cycle, humanity cycles up and cycles down. Consciousness cycles up and cycles down. We are in the midst of the Kali Yuga, the great age of darkness. Things that are happening on this planet can only happen during this cycle of darkness and depravity, and cannot be stopped. The good news is that in the 2020s the Kali Yuga comes to an end, and all the darkness is swept away in the Great Purification, as the Light begins to return. Everything is happening right on schedule. The planet earth is a tough school. I like to call it the Paris Island of the cosmos. Everything in life is about making choices and learning the lessons that come with said choices.
Yes, Gates and globalists want to block the sun, because it is the giver of life. It is also the great destroyer. The Ancients knew this, but modern man/woman is blind. The predominant state on the planet throughout history is cold: (ice ages and mini-ice ages) punctuated by brief periods of warning (like the one we enjoy now). We are headed for a sever cooling period, and a magnetic pole shift as part of the Great Purification. Volcanoes will erupt and the earth will quake. This is what will crush the plans of the globalists. They will win for awhile, but as the Game of Thrones so elegantly phrased it: "Winter is coming."
It is all a test. Every moment of every day, it is a test. Do we choose to embrace the darkness or walk in the light? During some cycles the choices are harder. During the Kali Yuga the choices are the most difficult, because human beings have spiraled down and all around us is chaos. It one passed the test during the Kali Yuga, this ensures a geeat leap in spiritual evolution for the graduate. That is why your higher Self has chosen for you to incarnate now.
The "war" in Ukraine seems to be an excuse for food shortages. Both sides are in it.
The most likely event at this point is a false flag attack in the US (EMP, biological/chemical and/or nuclear) in order to provide a basis for martial law and further shortages. Eventually, people will start looting and killing each other. With no fuel/electricity in December, the outcome is clear.
Martial Law is lawlessness on the part of the "government" and should be met with extreme force measures.
Extreme prejudice it's called. :)
In flyover country, that is expected, so chemtrails, containing graphene oxide, heavy metals, nematodes, and goodness knows what else are employed.
Agree. And why didn’t the citizens of Ukraine remove the monster, why haven’t we removed our monsters...........behind all wars are citizens who allowed the monsters to flourish to make the next war.
For the same reason Macaroon, Turdeau, and a number of others have not been removed: people are powerless; they have always been but failed to notice it, while on a longer leash.
You forgot Putin...
No, I didn't; just didn't want to get into useless arguments with anyone.
The "world leaders" are in this together. The Presidents of Tanzania, Burundi, and Haiti didn't bite the bait (hundreds of millions of dollars in "aid," linked to enslaving conditions) and didn't last long after that. Belarus survived without any covid theater and they are among the fake opposition with Putin (who nevertheless, enforced a lot of crazy mandates and their injection is not much less lethal than the western versions and is certainly chock-full of graphene oxide and certain events suggest that graphene hydroxide is also used sometimes).
So Putin is in this together with Zelensky? I must have missed that
And with the rest of the "world leaders." Don't feel bad about it; many people have missed, and are still missing, that.
And they stand right next to them, capable of killing them on the spot and protect their sorry asses.
Because they, as opposed to you, are aware of the Russian bear that will swallow them whole.
I recommend reading up on the atrocities inflicted (and still being inflicted) by the Russian/Soviet occupation on the many peoples of the region. The countries of the Warsaw Pact know the cost of failure that you call for.
The average Ukrainian has been living under one of the most corrupt and oppressive regimes in the world for decades. As opposed to what you see on TV, they don't "hate Russians." They surely hate Stalin, but Stalin killed tens of millions of Russians, too.
The satellite states cost too much for the Soviets without any palpable benefits, so they let them go after they rationalized their domestic and foreign policies, but they had to go through the years of corruption after breaking up their union, while people were starving and everything for up to the grab for western "investors" (aka. vultures). The same process happened in most satellite states (the Czech Republic is a notable exception) and many East Germans now would prefer the GDR over "freedom." In Hungary, more people froze to death in the first winter of "freedom" than the number of people the communists executed after 1956.
The US cannot be very proud of its current situation, either.
And yet, it is a freer, and more democratic, country than Russia (or Belarus...). And you are willing to give up on them and give them away. Don't you think that (imperfect) freedom is something worth fighting for?
FYI: Ukraine is rated 122 in the 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), 14 places above Russia, and 143 in the Global Peace Index (GPI), 12 places above Russia. In the 2021 Democracy Index, Ukraine (classified as 'Hybrid regime') is ranked at 86, with Russia (classified as 'Authoritarian') at 124. When it comes to press freedom (2021 World Press Freedom Index), Ukraine is ranked at 97, with Russia at 150.
In spite of Ukraine being (as you said) "one of the most corrupt and oppressive regimes in the world", they have had more regime changes (through elections) than many of the authoritarians round them (such as Russia). Do you think that they want to return to 'Mother Russia'? In spite of this glorious victory, thousands of Russians are leaving their country.
So if you call Ukraine corrupt, what would you call Russia?
Ukraine may not have created a perfect democratic government, but they have made a lot of improvements (as have many other ex-communist countries). Creating a democracy is hard, but freedom is something worth working for. Don't you agree? Why don't we let them find their own way?
You sure swallow the propaganda don't you? And surprisingly haven't chocked to death on it!
He has, just doesn't know it yet. :) Used to be Astonished on mercola... Not hiding anymore; there is no point.
Beware, because no one is as susceptible to propaganda as one who is delusional enough to think themselves immune. You might even think that you thought it all up yourself.
Ukraine is one of the worst sh*tholes in the world; the "refugees" from there are indeed fleeing from extreme poverty and uncertainty, and they don't need a war on TV to feel justified about it. In 2014, they did not exactly have an election; instead, foreign mercenaries fired into a crowd and the elected government (well, are there any real elections anywhere?) was routed. The Donbas has been shelled ever since for demanding autonomy, which was against the oligarchs' business interests, the the Azon Battalion et al. were hired to do the job.
Freedom in the US? Most Americans were not even allowed to go about their business without being muzzled like a mad dog for about two years and many lost their jobs, because they refused to comming medical suicide with one of the "mandatory" lethal injections.
During the same two years, the executive branch has been posing as legislative and it all went unchallenged. "Presidential executive orders" have been issued, ignoring constitutional rights, much in the likeness of the way parliaments were circumvented in Eastern Europe under communism.
Please, name a single one of our "liberties" that has not been ignored or even trodded upon...
Who conducted the research and who paid for the statistics you are quoting? On what bases were the results established? How was it possible to measure them?
Democracy, already according to Aristotle, is the rule of the mob. Only constitutional rights can alleviate some of that burden. We call it a Republic around here, but the US Constitution after 2001 became just about as relevant as an old copy of Pravda in an abandoned Siberian outhouse.
Also, "democracy" is probably the most corrupt form of government. What Zelensky has recently "improved" was that he subscribed to the "Great Reset." That, of course, is even worse than "democracy." Okay, you are welcome to name at least ONE of the "improvements" you are talking about. Since Ukraine became independent, Russian, Polish, and Hungarian were forbidden in education. Are you talking about such "improvements"?
Russia, much like the US, is ruled by oligarchs. At least, citizens are not starving. The average monthly wage in Ukraine was around $50-100 a month in the last 30 years...
Thanks for comment!
It seems that not only don't the Ukrainians get your empathy, you are willing to sell them off to the previous rulers. Nice
As for the rest of your post, I lost the train of thought in your argument.
Don't pretend I don't know who you are. My posts are for other people, who still possess the power of thinking.
Ad hominem attacks only debase you, assuming you are not an AI, which you probably are. Or worse, but who cares under the circumstances. If you are a live human being, you are also a victim, even if you still do not know that.
Of course, you are losing your train of thought; apparently, you have not had much of that sort of thing. :)
Oh, and I'm not selling anything. By 2005, I had developed the algorithm that the monsters have been using since 2013, but I never sold it, because I knew that whoever would own it, would own the world.
Is that you Hunter Biden?
Considering the extent of logic it can apply, it is an AI troll. :) Its way of communication is too mixed for passing for human.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.
I don't wear panties. Perhaps you are mistaking me for some of your male friends.
What most people need to understand that there will be no winners here.
The enforcers, spies, and fake scientists will wear out their usefulness, once the "opposition" is eliminated, and they will be next in line to the slaughterhouse. No matter how much they get paid now, it will not be worth a penny after the installation of the digital currency (fiat money with no backup) that they will be able to access only when their bodies are "online" and only for "good behavior." Their Kill Switch will be included free of charge...
Unless they realize what's awaiting them, humanity doesn't have a chance. Not that it has ever had much, based on human behavior...
Fiat money has backup? EVER? What?
Nobody said it has. :) Yet it does: the enforcers "guarantee" its value...
I understand that Russian is demolishing another country, killing thousand and destroying the lives of millions. Do you?
And I also understand that there are people who, for some reason, don't seem to have any problem with this.
I don't really care what justification you find for failing to call out the atrocities. In the end, it's between you and your conscience.
I suspect you thought the Branch Davidians were killed by their own actions too.
The war is on TV only.
WW3 is likely to break out between Eurasia and Oceania, too! Enjoy the show!
My heart sinks for all the youngbloods, thrust into a war not of their making - such a travesty.
A part of the world that offered up countless millions for sacrifice 80 years ago. One lifetime. And now it repeats. Unless we stop it.
That was brutal.
I wonder, though. Can the American commanders and the Azov nutcases prevent those young Ukrainians from just surrendering? Can't fight a war if the troops just won't fight.
I heard a theory that this is how WWI ended. The soldiers on both sides literally gave up and turned on their governments. How much of the history books can we trust given the lies we all hear now? I really don’t know.
History is written by the winners. And then edited and rewritten over and over.
They do surrender when they have a chance (over 1,000 in Mariupol, they said), but heard Azov is brutal, killing for such attempts
Yes, I've heard the same thing.
I expect the Russians will be organizing war crimes tribunals.
Ritual human sacrifice for profit and pleasure by the psychopaths. And the sleeperwalkers continue waving their fucking blue and yellow flags like it's a parade. Thank you, GC, for your powerful and moving words.
Permit me to share this link. It's OT, je pense.
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Judge Holden Holds Forth on War (Blood Meridian)
Posted on November 11, 2012 by Biblioklept
From Chapter XVII of Cormac McCarthy’s novel Blood Meridian—
"When God made Man, the Devil was at His elbow."
Absurd. There is no devil. Every moment in time, each individual must make the choice to walk in darkness or embrace the light. It is called free will, and it is a blessing, although for most people it is a curse.
Well said. This would be appropriate for every war since the beginning of time. This war will also help with the depopulation goal of the WEF that COVID did not reach. The defense contractors across the world will become richer as they always do. War is good business for them.
The innocents will do all the suffering.
Yes, the depopulation goal becomes all too obvious now with the engineered food crisis.
I agree, this is all inter related and part of the Great Reset. A town in Italy now has adopted the Social credit model that China has. It is coming in waves.